Warnings of insurrection in America

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Attention all Americans, we are anonymous. In early December of 2012, a crazy person in Connecticut went to a school and killed 20 schoolchildren and a number of adults.

The attack in a theater in Colorado was the act of a crazy person. There are always some crazy people, and there are already laws in place making it illegal for them to obtain or use guns. It is illegal to take a gun into a school or theater. It is illegal to kill people. Yet these laws did not stop these events, because criminals do not obey the law. Only law-abiding citizens obey the law, and the law-abiding citizens are not the problem.

Connecticut is the 4th highest gun control state in the country, and it’s very hard to get a gun.
Chicago and New York have the highest crime rates and both have had total gun bans for years, yet gun violence increased.

Mexico has a total gun ban for all citizens, but in the last three years, more than 55,000 people have been killed by guns, because only the drug cartels and criminal government have them.

Throughout history, authoritarian governments have used gun violence as an excuse to take peoples’ firearms and control their population. This is exactly what Adolf Hitler did to disarm the German people, and look at the atrocities his administration committed. [President] Obama has been working hard to try and ban semi-automatic weapons and shotguns, while at the same time, increasing the weapons and firepower that police and government agencies have.

Within minutes of the Connecticut shooting, politicians were on the state-run media, saying it was time to get rid of guns, and they will be talking about it for weeks to come. The [President] Obama administration, and his government-funded media, have been promoting this idea for months. Every time there is a shooting performed by a crazy person, the media talks about it non-stop for weeks, months. But when there is an illegal or unlawful shooting by police that does not fit [President] Obama’s agenda, the story is barely mentioned, such as some of the following cases.

Aug 2nd, 2012
Chavis Carter was shot in the head while handcuffed in a patrol car, in police custody. Police claim he hid the gun and shot himself, even though he already told his girlfriend they would go to a movie when he got out.

January, 2009
B.A.R.T police Officer Johannes Mehserle shoots and kills a handcuffed, restrained, unarmed man, while multiple other officers are around.

Aug, 2012
A man at the Empire State building has killed a co-worker, so the police showed up and unleashed a hail of gunfire at the man, killing him, and the police bullets also injured many pedestrian bystanders.

July, 2012
Some protesters demand answers from police about why they shot a man in the back. The police responded to the crowd of protesters, that had many children (under the age of 10) with rubber bullets and attack dogs.

These stories got barely a whimper out of the press, and certainly did not get the coverage of several weeks, even though they are just as newsworthy. In addition, are the other major violent crimes where firearms were not even used.

August 2007 – Connecticut
In a home invasion, a wife and two children were murdered. The wife and the youngest daughter were also victims of sexual assault. Only the father/husband survived, but he was badly beaten.

October, 2012
A mother and her 2 children were brutally murdered in California home, and the suspect did NOT use a firearm.

October 2012
Two children were found stabbed to death when their mother returned home. The suspect was the children’s nanny.

September, 2012
Sibling’s throats slit by intruder.

The press also hardly mentions the cases where guns were used by law-abiding citizens to save lives, avoid being raped or killed.

October, 2012
12 year old Oklahoma girl shoots home intruder to protect herself, after she tried to evade them.

January, 2012
14 year old boy kills intruder when a gang of four men break into his house where he was alone with his 17 year old sister.

Many would have you believe that guns are the cause of violence, but that is like saying fat people are obese because they have forks and spoons. It is caused by the person that commits the acts, not the instrument they used.

If guns were the cause of the violence, then the police would be committing more violence with guns and would need to be disarmed, instead of being more heavily armed. And the military and national guard should never be used to perform law enforcement duties.

Other anons, and many other people including Alex Jones and many others, have provided lots of evidence over the years to these facts. It has been known and predicted by many for several months, and in some cases years, that Mr. [President] Obama’s intentions are to confiscate all firearms, or at least as much as he can, to make it easier to usher in a Fascist police state, and establish a one world government, under a one world currency system.

It was a tragedy in Connecticut, where the school children were murdered by a crazy person, and as we have demonstrated in this video, there are countless tragedies where the press did not report on it as much, because it was not on the political agenda.

How dare Mr. [President] Obama soil their memories and who they were, and are, by using this and other events for his own purpose. Guns have been used to save lives, and could have been used to save other people. Mr [President] Obama would have you believe that guns are the cause of these crimes that CNN, FOX, and the rest of mainstream media talk about so much, but it is hardly mentioned when crimes are committed by authorities that are ever-increasingly armed. Mr. [President] Obama will tell you he needs to get guns out of the hands of criminals, but he will be taking them out of the hands of law-abiding citizens, while the criminals will still have them and will have other means of inflicting harm. The law-abiding citizens will be helpless.

Those that were saved by guns will become victims, and those that could have been saved by guns will have that history repeated, as others are no doubt raped and murdered.

Mr. [President] Obama, the 2nd Amendment of the US Constitution does not talk about an army; that is covered elsewhere in the Constitution. It does talk about a well-regulated militia, which is made up of civilians with their own weapons. The Second Amendment of the US Constitution does not talk about protecting government or government resources, but it does talk about being necessary for the security of a free state. The Second Amendment of the US Constitution does not say a single word about hunting or sport. But it does say “the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.”

To the American people, as many laws have been banning firearms in cities such as Chicago, New York, and Washington D.C have been implemented, and as the courts get them, they are now being overturned as being unconstitutional. Even if they were not ruled on, they are an infringement to your Second Amendment rights, and you have no obligation to obey it, and the courts have no obligation to enforce it.

16 AM Jur 2d, Sec 177 late 2d, Sec 256.
No one is bound to obey an unconstitutional law and no courts are bound to enforce it.

Mr [President] Obama, as the chief law enforcement officer of the country, you are responsible for the conduct of those under your command. There will be no further tolerance of any of the following:
Any act to infringe on any of the Bill of Rights, as identified in the US Constitution.
Any act to seize or locate any firearms or ammunition.
Any act to control the ownership of firearms or ammunition.
Any act to control the manufacture or sales of firearms or ammunition.
Any act to document ownership, purchases, or attempts to purchase firearms or ammunition.
Any act to deploy or stage for deployment any military forces or government employees or agents thereof, for the purpose of asserting control over the population or the rights of the people or states as defined in the US Constitution. Such as would be used in Martial Law.
Any act to write, form, negotiate, enter into, or comply with any international treaty that would or could do any of the points mentioned previously.

Reid v. Covert, 354 U.S. 1 (1957)
Treaties do not confer powers not authorized by the Constitution…

Any action taken by you to attempt to perform those acts, or similar acts as interpreted by the American people, or any attempt by you to skirt your responsibility to the true office of the presidency, will be viewed by many people as your willful act of insurrection and treason against the American people, as those acts would be willful disregard of your oath of office.

Any further attempts by your administration, law enforcement, or those under authority of the presidency, to assist anybody attempting such acts will be viewed by many people as your willful act of insurrection and treason against the American people, as those acts will be willful disregard of your oath of office.

Any further attempt by you, your administration, law enforcement, or those under authority of the presidency to do any of those acts mentioned, or anything similar will be viewed by many people as your willful act of insurrection and treason against the American people, as those acts will be willful disregard of your oath of office.

Upon such acts, it is the responsibility of the Vice President and cabinet members to immediately exercise their authority under the Twenty-fifth Amendment of the US Constitution to remove you from office. Failure of such actions may be viewed as an act of insurrection and treason by the Vice President and cabinet members, as such failure would be willful disregard of each of their oaths of office.

Upon failure of the Vice President and cabinet members to perform such duty of your removal, it then falls upon Congress to immediately force your removal by legal means. Failure of any member of Congress to perform such duty, or to hinder in any way, will be viewed by many people as an act of insurrection and treason against the American people, as such failure would be willful disregard of each person’s oath of office.

Upon failure of the Congress to perform such duty, it will be the responsibility of the United States Supreme Court, for failure to act in the past or present to rectify said situation will be viewed by many people as an act of insurrection and treason against the American people, as such failure would be willful disregard of each Supreme Court Justices’ oath of office.

Upon failure of all the aforementioned bodies to perform such duties, it will be authority and duty of any and all members of the United States Armed Forces to remove the President, Vice President, cabinet members, members of Congress, and the US Supreme Court Justices from power, by military force.

Failure by all military members to perform such duties will constitute as an act of civil war against the American people by said authorities.

This video has links to other sources, and these are the news and education reasons, and examples of defensive use, that no doubt some people will try and have removed. Download it, and reupload it, we’ll pass it along. Let the truth be known.

We are Anonymous.
We do not forgive.
We do not forget.

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117 Comments

  1. Anonymous

    January 17, 2013

    Is it acceptable to critique the painful grammar and composition of this message? Because it’s pretty painful in this case.

    • Sage

      January 17, 2013

      Yes it is. It’s also acceptable if you put up a document and correct everything and send it to us :)

    • Anonymous

      January 17, 2013

      Well, I thought of that; however, just because a person is not literate does not mean their ideas should not be circulated as best they can. He may be doing more important work than becoming literate. Protesting what he believes to be corruption should not require a degree in English.

      • Anonymous

        January 20, 2013

        Indeed, illiteracy should be improved upon but not be the whole basis on which we judge information.
        Information is power. Anonymous has information.

  2. Anonymous

    January 17, 2013

    Spell check this?

  3. Sassinak

    January 17, 2013

    This is not right. People should not be walking down the street with semi-automatic weapons.
    A War-like society is a failed society.
    The ones responsible are not the Puppets.
    That is the basis of understanding that birthed the #OWS movement, and you.

    • scotth

      January 17, 2013

      The US was born of a war. It will be reborn following the death of it current failed state. The bad guys have guns. You will not defeat them with a flower.

      • Anonymous

        January 21, 2013

        No, but you can defeat them with Tasers, Pepper-Spray, Tear-Gas, Tranquilizers, Bean-Bag Guns, etc.

    • Anonymous

      January 17, 2013

      If you don’t want to see people walking down the street with semi-automatic weapons, you MUST restrain the government from extending past the restrictions of the Constitution. Otherwise, you surely will see people walking the streets with *automatic weapons – and they will be your government. You will not be free in any sense. It will be too late. Society will be replaced with a form of living called “a controlled society.” Like being in former USSR and being viewed as an enemy of the State. Everyone wants “peace” but you cannot attain it by giving up your powers and rights. If you do, you will attain “submission” which is quite different from “peace.”

      • Sage

        January 17, 2013

        Very very true. Thank you for this comment.

      • Anonymous

        January 21, 2013

        Let me get this straight…
        The only way to get rid of semi-automatic weapons is for Congress to allow the sale of semi-automatic weapons.

    • Anonymous

      January 17, 2013

      My concealed carry “pistol” is a semi-automatic weapon and so are 90% of the firearms in the hands of the public. Learn about firearms and the way they function before using an umbrella term in the conversation. Guns are not the problem, guns were never the problem. The problem is the wack jobs that don’t care about the laws. Laws are made to set a standard of living, MOST people are law abiding citizens. A very large percentage of those law abiding citizens have a passion for firearms. We are not gunslingers, we care about other people, people like YOU, who are unarmed, enough so, that we carry to protect ourselves, our family, and the general public. There are enough gun laws for law-abiding citizens… There is not enough ENFORCEMENT and PUNISHMENT ramifications for criminals to stop the gun violence. Banning guns will never never never never work, period. It will only make the majority of people more unsafe…

    • Anonymous

      January 18, 2013

      Do you even know what a semi automatic weapon is?

  4. Anonymous

    January 17, 2013

    Just FYI… Hitler did not outlaw civilian gun ownership or further restrict it. He actually make gun ownership more accessible.

    • Anonymous

      January 17, 2013

      He did outlaw gun ownership for Jews which were subsequently murdered in the millions. The rest of Germany was too cowed to act against him.

  5. TheButterZone

    January 17, 2013

    Do you want me to work on this copy and pastebin it? Quite a lot of grammar/spelling errors.

    • Sage

      January 17, 2013

      Please do :) Email it to us when you’re done.

  6. Anonymous

    January 17, 2013

    All my life, watching America, oh oh oh, OH, there’s panic in America.

  7. Anonymous

    January 17, 2013

    Razorlight, America

  8. Anonymous

    January 17, 2013

    Band: Muse: Song: Uprising

    • Anonymous

      January 18, 2013

      I see I’m not the only one to enterpret that song as such.

  9. Anonymous in USA

    January 17, 2013

    I have always supported your work, and have admired your bravery to expose “bad onions”. But this latest cause of yours is a load of crap. You sound like you have been hiding in a basement, pasting news articles on your cement walls, prepping for doomsday, and all because your think our POTUS has an evil plan. Really? I mean, really? Does anyone honestly think our government…our country…can be taken over by a tyrant? Please don’t ruin your good name by taking a position that over 70% of America disagrees with. Your name, your cause, and your influence will all be flushed down the toilet.

    • Travis

      January 17, 2013

      If it makes you sleep better, keep believing that… Sorry buddy, but Santa Claus isn’t real.

    • Anonymous

      January 17, 2013

      Thank you! Well Said. I agree with you 100% People that really believe this are the ones that are becoming unhinged.

    • Anonymous

      January 18, 2013

      You have no proof that “over 70% of America” disagrees with their position. You and your friends do not constitute 70% of the population and contrary to what you may think, over 70% of the population does not live in NY or CA. You people have been making things up and passing it as fact for a very long time. Make no mistake, the government wants your guns. They want them so you can’t resist.

  10. Nick

    January 17, 2013

    This is just ridiculous.
    Do you know how many school shootings we have had in Australia? One (Monash University, 2002, 2 dead 5 injured).
    We have tight gun laws here in Australia, and while it is possible to get a semi or fully automatic weapon, it’s difficult and expensive (Black market).

    Not having these weapons has only changed the country for the better.

    If you believe that Americans need these types of weapons (For what reason I don’t know, if you can’t defend yourself with a single shot weapon then you are on struggle street) then you are all ‘Crazy people’ and you will end up killing yourselves in a hail of automatic weapons fire.

    You don’t need these weapons, nobody needs these weapons.

    This group that you formed in an attempt to be a ‘Robin Hood’ of the people is losing it’s way.
    You have stopped being the electronic fist of the people and are now looking for any excuse to justify your actions.

    You are no better than the people you attack, and the group of people you speak for is getting smaller and smaller.

    I am all for sticking it to the man, but you are becoming a mindless terrorist organization.

    • Anonymous

      January 17, 2013

      Yeah well your government isn’t trying to take complete control of all aspects of your life

      • Nick

        January 17, 2013

        Well the American people did a good job at controlling their weapons themselves up til now didn’t they….

        Gun control is a no brainer.

    • Anonymous

      January 17, 2013

      Thanks for pretending Australian violent crime didn’t skyrocket once criminals knew innocent victims were disarmed and defenseless on their behalf.

      • Nick

        January 17, 2013

        Thanks for pretending you know what you’re talking about.

        Gun ownership in Australia was fairly low prior to 1996 anyway.
        The fact that the second Amendment has lasted since 1791 pretty much sealed the Unites States fate as a violent, armed state.
        Times have changed, and there is no need, at all, for anybody to own Semi-Automatic and Fully-Automatic weaponry, as well as a large cache of ammunition.

        You have to be brain dead to see otherwise.

        • Anonymous

          January 17, 2013

          When you don’t have the facts on your side, resort to insults. LOL

        • Anonymous

          January 17, 2013

          Great job dodging the question about Australia’s violent crime rate post-ban. I’d probably dodge a question that completely destroyed my argument as well.

        • frostybollocks

          January 18, 2013

          I’m not going to argue because you and I will not see eye to eye and that is ok. I just want to point out that to own an automatic gun in the U.S. requires a cavity search like background check and a few hundred dollars just to obtain a license to have class 3 weapons. Then you will pay 12-20 THOUSAND dollars to purchase the automatic gun.

          Please don’t confuse semi with auto they aren’t the same nor assume they(automatics) are around for the average person to get

        • Anonymous

          January 18, 2013

          You need a history lesson
          on Russia, Germany and what they did to there people after gun control!

        • Anonymous

          January 20, 2013

          Indeed, for your culture, way of life, how you grow up, what you eat, how you solve problems, how you think, is all the exact same no matter where you go.

          I’d encourage you to become less “Brain dead” yourself and start taking other’s people’s opinions, for without factual proof, generally in the form on links, it is nothing more than an opinion.
          Just as all your comments have been opinions without any factual evidence to support it.
          I hope this will jump-start the critical thinking skills of your brain.

    • Anonymous

      January 18, 2013

      yea go bro good luck stopping a home invader with a single shot gun.

      • Anonymous

        January 20, 2013

        You really need to look at a shot-gun’s kill radius and compare that to the longest horizontal distance in the expanse of your home.

    • Anonymous

      January 18, 2013

      Australia doesn’t have a southern border to have to deal with a flourishing black market trade in arms, it doesn’t have more guns than its own population and it’s an island in comparison to the US when considering how much land there is to hide secret trade routes. Nobody needs these weapons? If nobody needed weapons, this would be a perfect nation; yet we are anything but. Have you thought about the logistics of having to take away Every. Single. Gun? How are you going to compensate people who spent hundreds to thousands of dollars on their guns or even receieved them as sentimental gifts from grandparents? How are you going to deal with those who openly disagree with the idea of having to give up their guns? How are you going to deal with resistance? What about the manufacturers and the workers in that industry? What about those who conceal their hidden stashes? You talk about it like its an easy solution that we can enact tomorrow. You couldn’t be further from the truth that it will work out for us considering the size ad scale of both countries, the economic differences between every demographic who owns guns and how they obtained them. You are not prepared.

    • Anonymous

      January 20, 2013

      America.
      Australia.
      It seems that there’s absolutely no difference between the two, at all. Not in the people, ethics, culture, way of day-to-day life.
      Completely the same. I commend your opinion fine sir.

  11. Anonymous

    January 17, 2013

    While I do not agree with the gun control ideas you have, know that if this fails, freedom is going to be much more tighter in America. Be careful to ensure that your fight against the police state does not create a stronger one.

  12. Anonymous

    January 17, 2013

    As a Canadian Anon, I can’t get behind the statements made in this video at all. Gun control does not mean an absence of guns (1 out of every 19 Canadians has a firearms license, for example). What it does mean is a longer waiting period before you’re licensed, registering your gun/s (except long guns – that registry was abolished recently), a safety course, and a background check. That’s it. You can’t carry them around in hip holsters, but really, as long as you can protect your home and family nothing else matters. It’s BECAUSE Americans are allowed to carry them in public that you have so many problems. Can’t you see that?

    Grow up and become more civilised. America is now a joke. But hey, if you’re comfortable with that, well then, carry on…

    • Anonymous

      January 17, 2013

      Your family goes out right? How would you protect them from a bad guy with a gun if your gun is sitting at home?

      • Nick

        January 17, 2013

        How often have you needed a gun to ‘Protect’ you? Philistine.

        Weapons are for the weak, both physically and mentally.

        It’s comments like yours (Clearly uninformed and irrational) that keep this world in the horrible state it is in.

        I bet you jumped up and down in disgust at the latest School massacre and demanded something be done, but when there is a clear way to resolve these issues by law changes you think your ‘rights’ are in jeopardy.
        Grow up, or at the very least grow a brain.

        • Anonymous

          January 18, 2013

          weapons are for the weak, that’s why guns are called the great equalizer, no one can take anything from you by force if you have one. And if they try you have a fighting chance in beating them. That’s why American’s like their guns. Not to mention America was founded by people who would be called terrorists today.

        • Anonymous

          January 18, 2013

          If you must know, thrice – but you don’t have to just take my word for it. Do some searches for the figures of defensive uses of firearms in the US.

          I don’t quite understand how my comment was uninformed or irrational. The US is unique in that guns have been already widely available and we’re geographically huge.

          I can just as easily argue back that unless the US wants to go searching every square foot of this nation and confiscate guns from everyone (this would include law enforcement officers), I don’t see why people would have a problem with me keeping mine.

          Some provisions of the recently passed laws in New York don’t have an exemption for law enforcement – and the cops are already crying about it. hmm. i wonder why?

          I’ve been through the logic of gun control with a lot of people – my take on it has always been that deregulation of public of firearms is the LOGICAL conclusion and I’ve yet to hear an argument otherwise. I’d be happy to debate with you if you would like to argue in a civilized manner.

        • Anonymous

          January 18, 2013

          Weapons are for the weak? Where do you come up with this shit? Go
          Hug a kangaroo or something….

    • Anonymous

      January 17, 2013

      1/20 is 5%, that’s not a lot. All the places where there has been mass shootings in America are places you aren’t allowed to have guns at all.

    • Anonymous

      January 18, 2013

      I f the problems are clearly because we are allowed to carry our guns concealed in public, kindly explain why NYC and Chicago are the murder capitals when the populace there are not permitted to carry their guns. Learn to use facts instead of making things up.

      • Anonymous

        January 20, 2013

        He was simply stating his personal beliefs, not “making things up”.
        While he was wrong in his belief, it would be appreciated for you to provide these “facts” in the form of links, to back up how your own belief of him being incorrect.
        We are Legion. Remember this, for any Anon could be your savior.

  13. Anonymous

    January 17, 2013

    I once watched a sc fi show it was the remake of outer limits, and in this episode it portrade very well what I have thought for as far back as possible, these people were slaves and confined it was all they knew since birth because generations before their rights and liberties were slowly taken away and that is what they were born into and all they knew.
    So all those who oppose to fighting for freedom and what is right at risk to there own, think about your kids, think about your kids and imagine a future generation of slaves who would never know what it is meant to be free, you can ask yourself, what effect selfishly or even blindly as your government slowly and tactfully creates a country of slaves what consequence that will have on your youngest loved one, and maybe even you once the stacked deck cleans house on your ability to live freely and humanely.

  14. Anonymous

    January 17, 2013

    Ill make a deal with you. Take every grenade, rocket launcher, auto matic weapon, illegal weapon of any sort. and also prove you can prevent the need for me ever having to protect myself against murders, rapists,/ curuption, coheresed or crazy person, puppet or anything at all that would require fire power to protect my right to live, and I’ll give all my guns away.
    Let me know when you accomplish that, because the reality in a lot of countries is nothing like the laid back neutral society of canada.
    But still please do post back to this when you accomplish that so i can finally sell my weapons, and start on a mission for world peace, and making the already made life saving disease ending drugs available at my local walmart.
    Id really appreciate it.

    • Anonymous

      January 17, 2013

      Wow, police in your area use grenades and rocket launchers against civilians. Dayum bro, you must be livin’ in some Somalia and shit.

      • Anonymous

        January 17, 2013

        Google the food for guns program, where people in major cities turned in guns no questions asked, and receive food vouchers for them based on the power of the gun. You will see the type of weapons i mentioned in major cities were turned in for a food voucher. Then you will see the lack of facts in your response.

        • Anonymous

          January 17, 2013

          Its actually called the gun buy back program and just for a simple example for you , rocket launchers were bought back” in losangeles and massachussetts http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/12/28/16221808-rocket-launchers-surface-during-los-angeles-guns-buyback?lite
          So what does it mean when a person who turns in a war time assault weapon for some food ? there might just maybe a whole ton of these things you would not know about , and it’s easier to make a joke out of it and ridicule it as not true . Cough cough

        • Anonymous

          January 17, 2013

          A glorified pipe is not a rocket launcher.

  15. Anonymous

    January 17, 2013

    • Sage

      January 17, 2013

      Thank you very much sir :P We’ll update.

  16. Anonymous

    January 17, 2013

    You are 100% correct, thank you. You may be liberal in some or all of your views. That would place us on opposite sides of the isle regarding a lot of issues. Many can not see beyond their liberal views to the truth and the need to defend our liberties. They are brainwashed and automatically agree with the current administration just because they view it as liberal and all things liberal as good. We must all join together and defend the Constitution. It grants us the freedom to differ in our opinions. If we don’t, slavery will be our lot and the lot of our children. I am proud to support you.

    • Travis

      January 17, 2013

      Thank you.. Couldn’t have said it better!

    • Anonymous

      January 18, 2013

      many ‘liberals’ still agree that the constitution is what we should be protecting as American citizens, the government is starting to think that they are above it.

  17. Anonymous

    January 17, 2013

    If our founding fathers thought that words and paper would protect us, they would never have given us the 2nd amendment. Too many people have forgotten that the price of freedom is blood. If you do not fight for freedom you will become controlled. Guns in the hands of the average citizen won us our freedom from an oppressive government, and if we don’t exercise our rights we will lose them to a new oppressive government – our own. Sad but true. And if you think our government wouldn’t lie to its own people to further it’s own agendas I’m truly sorry for you and the state of ignorance you live in.

    • Nick

      January 17, 2013

      This is the exact mentality that keeps America violent.
      The Second Amendment was passed in 1791, at a time where America was unstable, and ultimately led to a civil war.

      Times have changed, and laws need to change as well.
      Why do you need guns now? Who are you fighting?
      It seems that the only people that you are defending yourselves against are yourselves.

      If you need a gun to make you feel safe at night then you are weak. Mentally, and physically weak.

      In 1791 the gun of the time was, well, a gun.
      Now the real weapon IS WORDS AND PAPER, most of the world has got past the ‘I don’t agree with my neighbor down the street, I know I’ll go shoot him’ stage.

      If people like you grow up, then so will your Country.

      The United States will slowly fall apart if you cannot accept change.

      Having a gun under your pillow won’t save you, or your country, but opening your minds will.

      • Anonymous

        January 17, 2013

        The mere fact that you claim the real weapon is “words and paper” demonstrates who the weak one is, both mentally and physically.

      • Anonymous

        January 20, 2013

        You see, Nick, your ideas carry weight in idea form.
        They do not carry weight in reality form, if you will.
        In Texas, where it is legal to possess just about any gun you can buy with the proper licence or combination of licences, violent crime is relatively low. Our state fair by law allows us to carry concealed weapons on the property.
        If YOU were a criminal, and YOU had a gun, how likely would YOU be to attack another person who just MIGHT have a gun, as opposed to, with this gun control law, someone who you could reasonably assume would NOT have a gun.
        Please, consider this for as long as possible. I have very many holes I’d like to be able to fill in.

      • Anonymous

        January 20, 2013

        Good sir, have you ever been in a physical confrontation with a bully where your schoolwork saved you?

    • Anonymous

      February 2, 2013

      Well said. They knew there was a probability that the citizens of the Republic, their great experiment, would end up having to throw off the government if and when it became despotic, by force of arms. They fear us whilst we are armed. Unarmed we are sheep.

  18. Anonymous

    January 17, 2013

    I thought anonymous was a group of smart people not right wing nuts. Who want to live in a army style base country. I don’t want to walk do to the park and see AK74s being carried around. Just because not every one follows laws shouldn’t mean we give up on them. I stopped listening to this when they brought up hitler. As its widely know when that comes up you just lost the argument

    • Anonymous

      January 17, 2013

      On what grounds is it known that bringing up historical events loses the argument? The grounds that you refuse to admit history has proven your unrealistic idealism wrong?

      You don’t and won’t see people walking the streets with AKs by not taking away guns, just as you don’t now. You will be far more likely to see it by becoming sheep cowering to politicians and madmen than by standing up for the rights of the people as established by our forefathers

      • Anonymous

        January 17, 2013

        I second that response , I believe the only reason why the repression and crimes against human nature keep happening in america, is simply (<= oxy moron <=) its easier to hide your head in the sand, and some the other reason I believe is some people are just so insulated from the reality of the nature of the beast known as Super powerful currupt people they hope for the best and do nothing pro active to make even a small change. It's very true and has been proven in history that is probably the reason for the hitler Fact mentioned. I mean lets all just forget about all the bad, no one wants to believe they're bad people so it takes some brevity to admit that ignoring the problem is helping propel the problem.

      • Anonymous

        January 17, 2013

        The Weimar Republic, the German government that immediately preceded Hitler’s, actually had tougher gun laws than the Nazi regime. After its defeat in World War I, and agreeing to the harsh surrender terms laid out in the Treaty of Versailles, the German legislature in 1919 passed a law that effectively banned all private firearm possession, leading the government to confiscate guns already in circulation. In 1928, the Reichstag relaxed the regulation a bit, but put in place a strict registration regime that required citizens to acquire separate permits to own guns, sell them or carry them. The 1938 law signed by Hitler ompletely deregulated the acquisition and transfer of rifles and shotguns, as well as ammunition. Many more categories of people, including Nazi party members, were exempted from gun ownership regulations altogether, while the legal age of purchase was lowered from 20 to 18, and permit lengths were extended from one year to three years.

        The law did prohibit Jews and other persecuted classes from owning guns, but this should not be an indictment of gun control in general. Does the fact that Nazis forced Jews into horrendous ghettos indict urban planning? Should we eliminate all police officers because the Nazis used police officers to oppress and kill the Jews? What about public works — Hitler loved public works projects? Of course not.

    • Anonymous

      January 17, 2013

      Please let us know where this park is where people are walking around with AKs. TIA!

      • Anonymous

        January 18, 2013

        Just as an aside I was in Israel in ’99 and the soldiers in and out of uniform were everywhere with their automatic weapons. It made me feel really really SAFE!

    • Anonymous

      January 20, 2013

      If I may say something, Hitler was a brilliant man who simply had the wrong morality.

  19. Anonymous

    January 17, 2013

    Wow

  20. Anonymous

    January 17, 2013

    and in the spirit of commander x (cuz I found relaxed demeanor while speaking the truth just awesome) im just gonna drive this finishing point in with a sludge hammer I have been well read on what anons and the collective have accomplished and took part in for a long time, as well as many other people politicians, actors, webmasters, students, doctors, even police, I don’t think any one single person involved in this movement, would choose to take on the ugliest most fearsome issues that plague good people and risk there own freedom if they didn’t intellectually, or deeply feel it was the right thing to do.

  21. Tired and Anonymous

    January 17, 2013

    Disappointing. Why didn’t you just say Obama is being an uppity nigger? The covert racism and overt ignorance is very disappoint. I thought the video on youtube was fake since it had so many conspiracy theory references. And it actually brought up Alex Jones like he’s a reliable source of information. The shooting you mention of the 14 year old boy who saved his 17 year old sister actually happened in 2010. Only the right wing militia websites presented the incident as if it happened in 2012 so obviously you didn’t do any fact checking. The New World Order conspiracy theory was started in the 1950′s by the John Birch Society. Have you stopped to consider how extraordinarily impossible the NWO Conspiracy would be to execute over a time span of SIXTY years??? And in all that time there’s no evidence, no memo, no confession that proves it exists. Just rumors and opinions. However it is a fact that one of the cofounders of the Birchers was Fred Koch, patriarch of an extraordinarily dysfunctional family that produced the four billionaire Koch brothers. Oil and weapons manufacture are multibillion dollar industries. The tea party and other right wings are pawns to keep the money flowing in. Your conspiracies all involve power grabs. To what end? The world revolves around money. It can buy power, it can buy a country. You should follow the money trail rather than play PR man for Alex Jones & the NRA. I’m surprised you didn’t quote the National Enquirer or mention alien babies.

  22. Nick

    January 17, 2013

    OK, so there has been a prologue of sorts added to this post.

    I don’t hold much hope for ‘down their weapons on their own accords.’.

    Although, I do believe it would be beneficial to attempt to educate people that still fail to understand why Gun Laws must change.

    But at the end of the day, you elect a government to keep you safe, keep the economy afloat (lol), and to make decisions and create or change laws to help protect the people.
    This is what the government is doing, changing/creating laws.

  23. Anonymous

    January 17, 2013

    Am I the only person who never heard anything about anyone taking guns away? I heard about some restrictions on magazine size, certain assault weapons and funding for mental health care along with armed guards in schools and some studies on gun violence. Never once did anyone threaten to take away guns. He actually made it legal for you to carry in a National Park now. The level of anger and fear is I think out of proportion right now.

    • Anonymous again

      January 17, 2013

      And I fully support the 2nd cause I’m a little worried sometimes myself.

    • Anonymous

      January 17, 2013

      Slippery slope. Do some reading on how countries that have total bans got there… it wasn’t overnight, it was gradual and started with the very things that you named.

  24. Anonymous

    January 18, 2013

    The new headline under the video…
    love it!

  25. Anonymous

    January 18, 2013

    Not a counter to the argument made in the video, but one that could go hand in hand with it:
    http://ssristories.com/index.php

    Citing Alex Jones?? Tsk, tsk. He’s cointel, or provocateur, or something. Take a look at how he dispersed and shut down a pro-gun rally:
    http://www.patriotnewsnetwork.org/2010/11/hard-look-at-alex-jones-part-1.html

    The Alex Jones story comes in several parts, but this one is most relevant to the task at hand. I don’t endorse the point of view held by this outlet, but since it’s a first hand account and verifiable, I’ll give it a 70% rating. Just my humble opinion…

  26. kalu

    January 18, 2013

    i’m disappointed in this video. fair enough, people kill people but they do it a lot easier with guns, there’s a form of cowardice behind a small mechanical movement to end another being’s life that does not compare to the brutality of having to stab/bash/etc someone to death. more guns = more gun related deaths, it is as simple as that. i’ve always been proud of anonymous and what they do but this video reeks of tyranny and extremism. you say you prefer the administration to focus on education, but you don’t go into that in the video. you just say what you think and then threaten anyone who disagrees with you. shame on you.

    • Sage

      January 18, 2013

      You are right Kalu. What you say is true.

  27. Anonymous

    January 18, 2013

    All you antigun people are a bunch of pussies. And all you stupid kids voted for Obama because you thought he was cool. Are you sorry yet? And if you are scared of guns, don’t own them, or know how to use them, what kind of revolutionaries are you? Internet tough guys? I will dig holes in the garden and make holes in my walls to hide my guns, my ammo, and may mags, IRA style, before I give them up. When they come to take me I will not be captured. I am a law abiding tax paying citizen and I do not ask much of my government, other than to leave me be. Yet all they do is take – my money, my freedom. The baby boomers have grown up and they are don’t trust us. Taking my guns is crossing the line. The gun is freedom.

    When they kick out your front door
    How you gonna come?
    With your hands on your head
    Or on the trigger of your gun

    When the law break in
    How you gonna go?
    Shot down on the pavement
    Or waiting in death row

    • Anonymous

      January 20, 2013

      Sir, you really need to calm down.

  28. Anonymous

    January 18, 2013

    Times may have changed, but the determination of power hungry greedy men and governments has not

    • Anonymous

      January 19, 2013

      Absolutely,if anything the greed and hunger for power is growing!

  29. Anonymous

    January 18, 2013

    Change, for the sake of change, without a great deal of thought and introspection, is as dangerous as any firearm, or form of violence. The only change I see coming from this administration is the advancement of centralized power with a shocking hew of despotic intolerance. That at the expense of the very reason we have a bill of rights in the first place, its called liberty. If you wish to live as a subject, so be it. But do not force that upon those of us who cherish our liberty.

  30. Anonymous

    January 18, 2013

    Furthermore, you see, its never about guns. Its never about violence. Tyrants arise and peoples are indeed subjugated time and time again when there is nothing left to defend.

  31. Anonymous

    January 18, 2013

    For decades in this country one could order most any type of weapon through the mail. The M1 carbine, a semiautomatic rifle that accepts a 15 or 30 round magazine, was available as government surplus for as little as $20 with no background check, no paperwork, no nothing. And our crime rate was a fraction of what it is now. Mass shootings were nearly unheard of. Why?

  32. Tired and Anonymous

    January 18, 2013

    Glad you are saying video is fake, who put it out? Alex Jones & friends?

  33. Anonymous

    January 18, 2013

    To the comment who said, “For decades in this country one could order most any type of weapon through the mail… with no background check, no paperwork, no nothing. And our crime rate was a fraction of what it is now. Mass shootings were nearly unheard of. Why? ”

    Every school shooter has been on antidepressants – SSRIs. On the SSRI label, it warns that a “side effect” of this drug is violence and suicide. See SSRIstories.com and DrugAwareness.org for a discussion of case histories compiled by a psychologist who is an “expert witness” in such cases that go to trial. It is apparent that it is the drugs, not the weapons.

    • Anonymous

      January 18, 2013

      That was my comment, and I agree with you. My wife was on SSRIs for years. She was violent and threatened suicide. She was a stranger much of the time. It wasn’t until she stopped taking that poison that she came back to me. Strangely, her symptoms of “depression” went away along with the pills. She would have been better off injecting heroin all that time.

  34. Krazuda

    January 18, 2013

    i saw this when it was uploaded and thought of it as faked, it just didnt feel right, but i just let that thought go in and out of my head and forgot about it. while the message of the video is good, its a debatable subject.

  35. Anonymous

    January 19, 2013

    U have 3x the chance of dying to accidental poisoning, 2x the chance of dying from a fall then you are from getting shot by a weapon.

    Bush and neocons used the same unwarranted fear to get us involved in two wars dont be the liberal version of the same failed idea that legislating on “feeling safe” instead of legislating on facts is the “right” way to govern just because it’s your feelings they are toying with.

    .5 of .5 of .5 of 1% in the us died from ANY gun related death last year criminal or not. Less then .0001% were killed with a semi auto rifle.

    Wake up and stop following a carrot on the stick that leads to law abiding citizens losing rights.

  36. Anonymous

    January 20, 2013

    I’ve just been informed of the Anonymous movement tonight, and this video was one of the first I watched.
    I couldn’t see this as being wholly correct, though the ideas and basis on which they built may become useful.
    There is a place for all information within the book of knowledge.

  37. Anonymous

    January 20, 2013

    This video of real heavily armed federal agents bursting upon law abiding American small business people is not fake. Since Obama took office, the federal special agents armed with assault weapons & hollow tip bullets abusing citizens has dramatically worsened. Knowing that the citizenry is disarmed will only make gov’t abuse worse.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bFALonjLay0

  38. Nick

    January 20, 2013

    After reading half the crap that’s been posted on here I realize that there is no hope for the United States.
    You are all a bunch of gun toting hillbillies that have a mentality that can’t be changed.

    I feel sorry for the next child that cops a 5.56 to the head because you are all to blind to see the resolution to your problem.

    May your great God be with you, because nobody else will be.

    • Anonymous

      January 23, 2013

      the enemies of freedom everywhere love you they also feel there is no hope for the US especially if they can get our guns

  39. Anonymous

    January 20, 2013

    anonymous is neither a man, not a country, anonymous has no written platform. this message is not from anonymous.

    the 2nd amendment reads, “[in] A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.” please state the name and rank of the presidentially commissioned commander of the united states militia. it does not exist formally or informally in today’s world, therefore the ownership of weaponry is not constitutional.

    anonymous does not endorse this message. anonymous does not endorse the ownership of automatic or military grade weaponry in untrained/civilian hands.

    anonymous is a collection of many, not of one, this issue is not a global concern. anonymous is made up of everyone, everyone does not support this message.

    I am anonymous — we are anonymous.
    I reject this message — we reject this message.

    • Anonymous

      January 21, 2013

      The Bill of Rights recognizes PRE-EXISTING rights. The existence or nonexistence of a militia is meaningless. Just breaking it down: “The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.” is a complete thought/sentence. “A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state” is an incomplete sentence/thought. Therefore the right to bear arms stands on it’s own.

  40. Anonymous

    January 21, 2013

    IF THIS CHALLENGE IS NOT COMPLETED, THEN THE ARGUMENT FOR GUN CONTROL WINS BY DEFAULT.

    CHALLENGE: Name one use of guns that cannot be fulfilled by non-lethal weapons, aside from killing.
    TIME LIMIT: Forever

    Examples of non-lethal weapons: Electroshock Weapons; Tranquilliser guns; Sedative Gas; Tear Gas; Pepper Spray; Rubber Bullets; Plastic Bullets; Beanbag Rounds; Sonic Warfare (Shut-Up Gun, Sonic Grenade); Non-Lethal Grenades (Flashbang, Concussive, Sting); Active Denial Systems; Netting

    • Anonymous

      January 23, 2013

      So it sounds like you’re saying if the public is armed with non-lethal weapons that criminals, a tyrannical government or possibly a government entertaining the idea of invasion would look upon those non-lethal weapons as a deterrent to their own agendas. If that is true we should disarm in the absolute (military and police included) and destroy all of our nuclear weapons and see what that gets us. Lethal weapons are about deterrence. The threat of a fatal outcome or consequence of action. Non-lethal weapons just don’t have the weight of that threat.

  41. Anonymous

    January 22, 2013

    “…a well regulated militia…”

    What is it about the phrase “well regulated” that people are not understanding? And we are NOT a fucking militia! We have police and Armed Forces for that. Get a grip, people!

    The Secret Service couldn’t keep Reagan from getting shot – how do you figure YOU could?

    • Anonymous

      January 23, 2013

      It is not possible to keep another from getting shot just as it is not possible to keep people from getting sick. But at least you could return fire and stop the perpetrator on the spot.
      Roughly half of all crime is a repeat offense. The sooner that half is gone the less we’ll have to deal with.
      You know what they say about the police, when seconds count they are minutes away. The military is even worse.
      And jury trials, they are supposed to be comprised of a perpetrator’s peers. Do you consider yourself to be a peer of the criminal sector?
      Just some thoughts.

    • Anonymous

      February 2, 2013

      We have guns so when they call us out to serve as a militia we’ll be armed. What good is an unarmed militia? The government is supposed to provide arms to the militia? No, you are supposed to bring your own. The bigger the better. End of story.

  42. Anonymous

    January 22, 2013

    The entire purpose of guns throughout history has been to kill humans. Hunting came later.
    My son is serving in Afghanistan right now. Do you think that if our soldiers go out on patrol handing out flowers to the Taliban fighters that the Taliban will respond in kind? Yeah, I don’t think so either. Just as the Redcoats didn’t leave of their own accord, just as the whites killed unarmed Native Americans, all through history there is the record of man’s inhumanity to man. There is also the record of folks like Gandhi, Buddha, Jesus, etc. Those in power have always killed and abused those who are powerless. Gandhi admitted that nonviolent resistance would not have worked against someone like Hitler.
    Nature and Nature’s God assigns to every creature the right of self-defense. History has shown us that this right extends to the need to defend against one’s own government.
    The entire rational of the 2nd Amendment is based upon Natural Law and the history of England and English law. Even though our Founders lawfully petitioned the King for relief, none was granted. The only options open to our Founders were either indentured servitude or armed rebellion. Thank God they chose rebellion. As men of the Enlightenment, our Founders gave great thought to our Constitution and the future of our country. They foresaw the need of men needing to remain armed in order to keep their own government in check.
    Their rebellion also sparked other rebellions, such as in France. Other people saw that, yes indeed, the People can stand up to corrupt, capricious governments successfully.
    Before passing scathing judgement upon our Founders and their 18th century ideas one may do well to consider carefully their lessons to us all.

    • Anonymous

      January 23, 2013

      Well done thank you!

  43. Anonymous

    January 22, 2013

    What is it about the phrase “shall not be infringed” that people don’t understand. Get a grip folks!
    The Secret Service has prevented many assassinations. I wonder how successful they would be were they all always unarmed Secret Service.
    Interesting the President and his allies are not calling for their own guards to be unarmed. Hmmm . . .

    • Anonymous

      January 31, 2013

      Secret Service could be unarmed, or the protection details scrapped entirely. Only non-evil-as-fuck presidents get assassinated, and only evil-as-fuck presidents are put into office by election fraud anymore.

  44. Anonymous

    January 25, 2013

    “A free people ought not only to be armed and disciplined, but they should have sufficient arms and ammunition to maintain a status of independence from any who might attempt to abuse them, which would include their own government.” George Washington, 1790

  45. Anonymous

    February 2, 2013

    Love this thread. ‘A voice crying in the wilderness.’ We can’t afford to reject a tyrant on one side of the isle and embrace one from the other. Look at history. Tyrants on the left and right have lots in common, they kill everyone who disagrees with them.

  46. Julia

    February 3, 2013

    QA engineers would bnefeit from the insight into security problems in software engineering, because currently very few have a good understanding of security issues and their impact. I am very much in favor of formal approaches that have direct applications like in this paper. From my perspective, the more real examples the speaker provides the better.

  47. Fenian

    February 12, 2013

    I hate that the ‘Anonymous’ brand is being used to promote this drivel.

    If you allow unbalanced people to own guns you get what we’ve got. This is NOT what MY anonymous is about. The irony of stating “Not in my name” is not lost on me but, “Not in my name!”